Sunday, October 14, 2012

Symantec (SYMC - NASDAQ) Downgraded to "Sell"

Symantec, the producer of Norton AntiVirus, has recently broken out of its longtime downward trend of lower highs and lower lows, a pattern it has repeated since it's all-time high of the low $30's which was reached all the way back in the end of 2004. Since then, Symantec has achieved the stock price of $24 only twice, once in early 2005 and now again in March of 2013. It's time to take profits from this dead horse of a company before the euphoria wears off and it plunges back into the basement, where it seems much more comfortable existing.
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When looking at the five year chart, it is easy to see that Symantec has consistently had an average valuation of around $16, on a chart that is far too erratic between its highs and lows to reliably declare it has been "basing" and is ready for a major break-out. Today, Symantec is trading at a 50% premium to this average of its five year trading range, and smart investors might want to consider taking profits before it plummets and disappoints investors once more, as it has shown a repeated tendency to do.
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Furthermore, it appears that Symantec has been experiencing somewhat of a public relations problem recently, as it has forayed into the non-profit-generating business of dictating political correctness to the lesser plebes - their customers, even going so far as to start declaring certain websites as "hate sites" and banning access to them. Now, you might think that by "hate" we are talking about Nazis and skinheads, but we are not. We are talking about people who make up slightly less than half the world's population: Men. At last count, there were some 58 websites censored by Norton AntiVirus concerning men's issues ranging from divorce and custody laws to domestic violence to prostate cancer to discussing the relentless government funded drive by professional feminists to demonize and marginalize men in our society.

They don't, however, classify any feminist sites as "hate" even though many of them actually do call for physical violence, or even death, towards males. Perhaps it is simply because the works of feminists like the following are still taught in academia that they feel these sorts of things are not hate, while the act of opposing them is:

"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males." -- Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001

"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." -- Sally Miller Gearhart, The Future - If There Is One - Is Female 

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig." -- Andrea Dworkin, Ice and Fire, (Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 1987)

Keep in mind, these are women who have made fortunes either through their books or through their bloated tenured incomes at universities all across Western Civilization. (If you would like to read more of them, click here.) However, the good men of the world who stand up to this sort of lunacy, for no pay, are labelled as "haters." I have read one (unconfirmed) report that the word "anti-feminist" is classified as "hate." Go figure!

But, regardless of whether you support feminists' hatred of men ("For one of the implicit, if unadmitted, tenets of feminism has been a fundamental disrespect for men." -- Wendy Dennis), or whether you support men's right to speak out against this ideology without being labelled a "hate site," the problem with a company like Symantec's political correctness goes much, much deeper than simply defaming men and their websites on the internet like a typical cyber-bully would. Oh no, dear investor. It gets much, much worse! These kinds of politically correct policies cost you money!

Take, for example, a company such as Wal-Mart, which was recently in a high profiled court case where it was alleged there was systemic discrimination against women in their organization. They nearly won in front of the Supreme Court too, except it was thrown back to some lower courts, I believe because they couldn't prove discrimination was "systemic" but rather only individual.

What you, as an investor, should be doing in these cases is "reading between the lines," because when the Mainstream Media and companies like Symantec toe the politically correct line, they blatantly hinder you from becoming informed of the Truth and making your decisions accordingly. 

With Wal-Mart, the women were complaining that it wasn't fair that, since they were women, they could not work 70hrs a week like the men, nor could they move to undesirable locations like Anchorage, AK for five years in order to advance their careers as the men were able to, because as women, they also had children and other family to take care of. Well, this may be so, or it may not be. Quite frankly, I don't really care because as an investor, my goal is to make money with my investments, not to promote a social agenda. After I make money with my investments, I will take my profits and decide to whom my charitable dollars will be directed, as it should be. As an investor, I want the companies I own to concentrate on making money. That is their sole purpose on this earth. If the CEO wants to give his own money to the Tuktoyaktuk Polar Bear and Walrus reserve, that is his business.

But, it is companies such as Symantec who try to silence people through the label of "hate" so that you don't get all the facts. It is bad enough when the Mainstream Media believes that covering the Wal-Mart story in an unbiased manner means interviewing a feminist from the East Coast and another feminist from the West Coast, but when companies like Symantec try to squelch the noise from "hateful" people opposing such blatant biased reporting, you might never hear a headline like this:

"Court Rules that Wal-Mart Must Replace Top-Notch Management With Mediocre Employees. Longterm Outlook for Stock Valuations Appears Grim!"

I mean, after all, if you are going to take people who work 70hrs a week and replace them with people who only work 40hrs a week, you can pretty much count on management being 57% as effective as before, and you would unload that company from your portfolio in a big hurry. So... why doesn't this kind of stuff get debated more in the public sphere? It's because of the kind of politically correct censorship Symantec (as well as others) use without a second thought.
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But it gets even worse, because companies like Symantec, despite their politically correct posturing, don't even actually practice what they preach. For example, at the Symantec website, under Corporate Responsibility, they have a program called "Science Buddies":

"Science Buddies is dedicated to helping girls develop and maintain an interest in STEM learning.  In fact, 55% of Science Buddies' student-users are girls.  Science Buddies' project ideas and activities help girls to innovate, imagine, build, tinker, solve problems, and make things.

In addition, our organization helps to publicize and promote events and initiatives that encourage young female scientists and engineers, such as Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day, to our audience of 15 million teachers, students, and parents."

(What they do for the 45% that are boys, I have no idea. I guess they just don't matter as much.)

Yet, when one wanders over to their Management Team, you can see that only 2 out of 16 executives are women, and of their Board of Directors, you will find that only 1 out of 8 are female, or, a mere 12.5% of high level employees are women. Hey... wait a minute here... don't women make up over 50% of the population?
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Oh! The Misogyny of the Old Boys Club at Symantec!
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They are quite clearly, according to every feminist on the planet, part of a Patriarchal Culture that discriminates against women! I would like to see those in power at Symantec explain how they have not done so without engaging in the sort of misogynistic "hate" they so quickly label others with - others from their own customer base!
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Now, they may claim the reason they are promoting the "Science Buddies" program for girls is to get more women into those positions in the future, which assumes that in the past girls did want to have these jobs but there were some big, evil men hiding behind the door who wouldn't let them in. Right? It couldn't be that women aren't attracted to the STEM subjects to the same degree as men, could it? I mean, if girls already make up over 60% of all college degrees, the only reason they don't make it in the STEM subjects must be because of the hateful people who ought to have their websites labelled and defamed! STEM subjects are the only area of academia that is not completely dominated by females. I mean, really now. Is it so bad that boys excel in one area, while leaving the rest to girls' own choices, of which STEM subjects don't appear to be high priority?  But they are right, just as in our school system, if you want more girls to succeed, the best way is to direct all resources towards girls and none towards boys. I mean, how unfair that boys could be allowed to dominate in one single field besides ditch-digging and other various jobs women wouldn't touch with a barge pole - you know, the ones that result in over 90% of workplace injuries and deaths landing on the backs of men. I don't hear the feminists, nor Symantec, advocating for Title IX participation in that area of the labour force, do you?

But, what does the management of Symantec and other large companies such as The Royal Bank of Canada, or Bell Media, actually think is going to happen to them in the future? Referring back to our failed lawsuit against Wal-Mart example, suppose that the goal at Symantec is to have those female employees who only put in 57% of the effort become represented in equal proportion to the men in executive and board positions... then just where, exactly, are those men supposed to go? The men who would work 70hrs a week would be fools to keep working like that if women could work only 40hrs a week and achieve the same promotions and pay. So, where, exactly, are all these displaced men supposed to go? Obviously, women only want to work in "nice conditions." They are screeching for corporate and government support only to make themselves represented in larger numbers in "nice" jobs such as doctor, lawyer, teacher, or anything else with prestige, an air-conditioned office, and plenty of other girls to gab and gossip with. They certainly aren't clamoring for jobs as garbage collectors or farm labourers, are they?

So, while Symantec and other corporations try to show the world how "socially responsible" they are in this "equal" nation we live in, what they are actually doing is bringing back an aristocratic class structure to society - something that America has gladly shed from European history. After all, if women only go for the cush jobs, and they get aided to the tune of billions by smug corporations trying to appear politically correct, and further enforced into those positions by the law - such as is the case in Norway where 40% of corporate boards must be female... then it is only simple math to see that women will dominate all of the good, high-paying jobs (often without merit), while the men will be far over-represented in all of the crappy jobs that women simply won't do. Talk about bringing social and class stratification back into society! Women: Upper Class Merchants and Nobles. Men: Lower Class Peasants and Scum.

And this doesn't even get into the troubles that hypergamy brings into the equation. Women "marry up," but rarely downward in social status - thus nurses marry doctors, secretaries marry lawyers, factory labourers marry waitresses... but very, very rarely does a female doctor (or executive at Symantec) marry a garbage collector or one of those "icky" auto mechanics. Way to destroy marriage, and the stable society that marriage creates, you socially responsible people at Symantec! What do you think happens to a country when there are large amounts of men, unattached to families, and with no good job prospects? Ever heard of the Middle East or the Arab Spring? Do you understand why, in those above feminist quotes, they want the number of men reduced to 10%?

Perhaps its best for Symantec to leave their moralizing out of the workplace where it not only affects their performance, but also their market value - and thus, their investor's profits. Make your investors money, like you are supposed to, and let your investors decide what to moralize about or be charitable towards.

What Symantec ought to do is hire a guy like the CEO of Cypress, T.J. Rodgers, who in 1996 responded to a nun about the immorality of political correctness in corporations. It's well worth the read - especially for those who work at Symantec.   

Disclaimer: The author of this article is not a professional investment adviser and the above information is not for trading purposes, but for entertainment only. Do your own due diligence and trade at your own risk. 


Is Symantec Anti-American?

Symantec and Censorship 

"According to this report in the Sydney Morning Herald, Chief Operating Officer of Symantec, John Schwarz, was quoted as “calling for laws to make it a criminal offense to share information and tools online which could be used by malicious hackers and virus writers”. If this is the official stance from Symantec, then I must say I am convinced John Schwarz is smoking crack. Our country has a history of censorship blunders and what I call “censorship legislation” that has mucked up our legal system long enough and crippled the responsible citizens with little-to-no effect on actual crime. What’s even scarier is that a VP from Symantec was recently named the Dept. of Homeland Defense’s Cybersecurity director, putting friends of Symantec in high places where this legislation could actually become a reality. This short article will take a look at the negative effects of the censorship legislation backed by the COO of Symantec and also a couple of recent examples of “censorship legislation” … and what little effect it has had on criminals, while having a substantial effect on responsible citizens. I can only draw one of two conclusions about Mr. Schwarz based on this stance. In my opinion, he is either completely ignorant of the effects of this type of legislation, or he is an avid supporter of weakening American infrastructure, American jobs, and the US Constitution."

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Symantec's Censorship of the Gun Debate

"Regardless of one's stance on this issue, it is intellectually dishonest to filter sites interpreting the Second Amendment as an individual right or those discussing the advantages and disadvantages of gun control policies, on the grounds that it might avoid future school shootings, or just as absurdly, that these sites in any way encourage kids to 'hose down' schools. Such associations are logical fallacies."

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One little mistake -- like failing to sign the certificate when you push out a patch for your antivirus product -- and all of a sudden you're a malware-producing, censoring spam bot. That's how it seemed for Symantec when an error spun wildly out of control.

...Symantec began deleting posts on the forum, and users began accusing it of censoring free speech and coming up with conspiracy theories.

Censorship? What censorship, asks Mark Parker, senior product manager at antivirus vendor Marshal8e6. "You are told these forums are moderated when you sign up for them," he told TechNewsWorld.

... Symantec began deleting posts in the Norton Users Forum because they were abusing the forum's terms of service, Symantec staff member Dave Cole said. "Within the first hour there were 600 new posts on this subject alone," he said.

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Symantec/Norton Censorship 

It appears that Symantec/Norton is up to their old tricks again

Censoring any person be it a paying customer or not, that asks them a direct viable question on their forums relating to one of their most recent blunders, the release of their Update V.16.5.0.134 & V.16.5.0.135.


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Symantec Supports Chinese Web Censorship

Summary: Symantec's Norton AntiVirus product has blacklisted a piece of software which enables users in China to access websites which are blocked by order of the government.


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Lol! Now here's a real hate-site!

Why Do People HATE Symantec?

"They flagged my website as dangerous and try to persuade me to buy their worthless products in exchange for whitelisting."

"It has crap antivirus software. It does more harm than good. Lot of False positives. Something called SONAR is a joke. Keep away from this software"

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Problems with Norton Internet Security?
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Problems with Norton Internet Security?

Pinched from Angry Harry 
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Problems with Norton Internet Security? 
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It must have been about 13 years ago when I first underwent the horrors that Norton Internet Security inflicted upon me.

It crashed my computer endlessly, slowed it down to a snail's pace - with the hard drive whirring away for minutes at a time - and my download speeds on the internet were continually abysmal.
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This went on for about three months.

At the time, I had no idea that Norton Internet Security was the source of all my woes.

I thought that it was either my browser or one of my programs that was messing things up or, worse, that my computer was infected with some awful virus.

These problems went on for weeks.

Then I came across someone writing in a forum about how his computer had gradually ground to a halt over a period of weeks and that his anti-virus software - Norton Internet Security - was the culprit.

I decided to follow his advice and uninstall Norton Internet Security and, like magic, my computer was completely transformed. It was back to its whizzing self.

I was so traumatised by the whole ordeal - constantly losing data and losing, literally, days' worth of time and effort, that I did not install any anti-virus software for about three years! - until I got a new computer.
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And despite the fact that I surfed the internet for many hours every week, not once did I have any problems caused by viruses or malware.

With my new computer, I installed a product called Zone Alarm, which worked really well.

I seem to remember that it cost about $20 per year, and I never had any problems with it.

About three years later, I stumbled across a product called AVG which had very good reviews. And it was free!

So I gave it a try, and I have been using it without problems ever since.

Well, it seems that Norton Internet Security is still causing terrible problems to users judging by the thousands of horror stories that seem to be all over the internet, and so my advice is to avoid it like the plague.

Here are some recent examples of comments from all over the place, ...

I upgraded to 2013 on a machine where 2012 had some problems hoping that the new version would have fixed them but actually I think I am having even more problems...

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DON'T WASTE UR TIME OR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I have had norton for 2 years now and purchased the 2013 NIS. It keeps freezing my computer which I never had a problem with. It just stopped working had to uninstall and reinstall. It messed up my dvd drive everytime I uninstalled it I had to run fix it to get it back

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After installing it I decided to run a full scan. While it was running I had to run an errand. When I got back, I went to check the scan and it didn't even scan 9,000 items, and the scanner was just "hanging there." Not doing nothing. So, I went to stop the scan, and it wouldn't close. It just kept hanging. I tried closing the whole Norton screen by right clicking on the task bar to shut it down, but still it wouldn't.

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I can't put up with the lack of help and customer support anymore.

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Please be aware that I hate Norton with a passion, and am taking the time to worn unsuspecting people. Symantec who makes Norton is a greedy company that Doesn't care about their consumers.

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Speaking to the amiable back office people in India and I discovered the data was lost permanently with no chance of ever recovering it

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After a total of five hours of trying, I gave up and installed the cable company's free software (a version of McAfee); it installed and worked fine.

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I will NEVER purchase another Norton product. I installed NIS 2013 shortly after upgrading to Windows 8. NIS 2013 simply doesn't work with Windows 8. I started having problems downloading emails, then problems installing program/app updates.

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In conclusion, save yourself a lot of grief, time, and money and go with another competitor's product.

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Actual viruses are less harmful to your computer than this garbage.

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1) Norton disconnected my WIFI connection treating it as a threat. I no longer have WIFI and can't re-establish it without removing NIS, which I am doing. 
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2) It inactivated my Canon camera software stored on my computer's hard drive. 
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3) It affected another driver, which one I am not sure...I am now receiving Windows messages asking me if Windows should try to restore a disabled driver. 
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4) It has significantly slowed down the loading of Websites.

5) When I try to run a full scan using NIS, it stalls for at least a minute before the actual scan begins. 
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6) My computer comes to a stand still or becomes sluggish when NIS is running some updates. ...
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Stay away from NIS 2013; it is buggy and therefore Norton is trying to unload it from their inventory by selling it for $25. It's totally invasive to your computer system.
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Horrible!!! Removed itself for no reason and crashed both computers! 

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DO NOT BUY ANY NORTON PRODUCT. NORTON SUCKED A DECADE AGO, AND HASNT CHANGED.
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NIS 2013 nearly ruined my windows 7 laptop.
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It slowed my computer WAY down - actually it froze many apps. I could not use my Google Chrome with it, and ended up "uninstalling" it after 2 days .
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Couldn't get it to work on my laptop. When you loaded it on the internert wouldnt work. When you removed norton the internet worked!. Just downloaded microsoft security for free and everythings fine now.
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As soon as i installed it, Norton anti virus 2012 slowed down my computer and internet so much that it was a total joke... then the kick in the teeth came when i uninstalled Norton and for some reason the uninstall removed all device drivers and crippled my PC!!!!!!! SAVE YOURSELF DAYS OF TROUBLE by NOT buying this total joke of a so called software.... more like MALWARE!!!!
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The worst problem of all is that it takes an inordinate amount of time to reach a useable desktop.
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Upggrading to 2013 just lost all but six of my logins out of 90 and a bunch of confidential notes. I cannot believe how amateurish the algorithm must be to allow such a thing to happen. The upgrade does not make a safety backup and so the failed migration has in effect cost me an incalculable loss of confidential data. AVOID IT at all costs and get another brand
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What was Symantec thinking by releasing this piece of garbage??
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How to Uninstall Norton Internet Security
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Type "Uninstalling Norton Internet Security" into Google and you will see thousands of Norton users wanting to uninstall Norton Internet Security in order to protect their computers and their sanity.
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Indeed, the product is so bad that some companies out there are actually offering a service to help users with their problems with Norton Internet Security.
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Here, for example, you can get help with Norton Internet Security for £109 per year! ...
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Unbelievable, isn't it?
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Take my advice. If you want proper protection for your computer, go for AVG or Kapersky.
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You will likely save yourself a mountain of headaches and hours and hours of frustration.
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It's bad enough when you buy a product that just doesn't work properly, and so you have to send it back.
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But when a product actually messes up your computer and/or destroys mountains of your data and documents, then I think that you should be entitled to compensation; not only for your loss, but also for your time.
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Indeed, if you bought any other product that caused you such damage, you would, indeed, be entitled to some compensation.
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So why should we allow companies like Symantec to avoid their liability for causing significant losses to their customers?
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Finally, not everyone has problems with Norton Internet Security, but a very large percentage - about 20% - appear to have terrible problems with it - problems which gradually get worse as the months go by.
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So my advice is to uninstall it if it is pre-installed on your new machine as a trial version, and go for some better product.
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Indeed, the only reason that Norton Internet Security is often pre-installed on new machines is because computer manufacturers get good money from Norton for doing this.
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So, be warned!

On Women Pursuing Their Dreams and Aspirations

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A FEMALE WRITES: "As long as mothers and/or wives don’t allow their careers to consume their lives and interfere with their God-given duties, then I don’t see a problem. Women have their own aspirations and dreams as well just like men (and no I don’t believe that the only reason people have careers is to make money)."
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I agree with much of what you say. There is nothing inherently wrong with women having jobs, or their own money, or pursuing their dreams and aspirations.

Now, what those types of dreams and aspirations are sometimes irks me enormously, when one stands back and has a good long look at what society has transformed itself into.

One of the reasons that women earn less in the workplace is because of the jobs they choose. Women are often reporting that they want to have a job that will have some sort of a social impact, or benefit the community (who doesn’t, by the way?), as well as needing "flex-time" in order to meet the needs of their families. Women will take lowered pay in order to find a job that meets these criteria.

Now, that is all good and fine – in fact, it might even be noble.

But look at the friggin’ absurdity of what we have done since those dreaded, awful, horrible 1950′s. (Arguably the zenith of Western Civilization).
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A man back then was able to earn enough money from a mere blue collar job that his wife could stay at home, he could pay for raising 4 kids, they could go on a nice family vacation once a year, he could pay for a decent home, and have a new car in the driveway. On his wage alone!

And often, after the kids were off in school, the house was nice & clean, and the fridge was properly reloaded, what did those oppressed women go off and do with the rest of their time?

Well, some of them gossiped like the dickens, I suppose, but many others did things they found socially rewarding. They raised money for charities, they volunteered time to help the elderly or the needy, they organized groups that enhanced the lives of their communities – from hobbies to sports, and so on and so on. In other words, they sought social rewards of their own volition, and had money in their jeans, er, pleasantly sexy sundress pockets, to boot!

And today? They have “liberated themselves” into halving the income of men by flooding the job market with labourers, forcing both men and women to work full-time jobs in order to live in a crappy condo with their 1.6 kids, and the two cars they need but can only afford on the never-never plan. (A lease). And what do they want out of their careers? To do something socially rewarding that benefits the community! See the irony here? And now, if they get to do such a thing called “social rewards” even marginally from their job, they have to do it in march step to their jerk-off boss under far less pleasant circumstances, while their kids are raised by strangers-for-pay.

Oh well, Ladies. I guess you’ve spent the last 50 years proving that men have been right for the past 5,000 years.

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QUOTE #2, A MAN: Women get paid less because they work fewer hours in less dangerous jobs. It has nothing to do with their noble humanitarian spirit (excuse me while I gag) to help others.

Women are often over-paid for the amount of work they do, leaving men to pick up the slack and subsidize women’s bloated paychecks.

If women were as altruistic as you claim, they’d recognize the atrocious abuses of the current feminist regime in large numbers, but that hasn’t happened because women largely live in their own self-obsessed little worlds. In contrast, men gave women the “women’s liberation movement” because men actually DO have compassion and noble intentions."

No doubt, I agree with much of what you say. Also, women will always put themselves first. And they are plagued with narcissism and are often self-obsessed – either with themselves or their own sex.

Also, I don’t doubt that often times the “charity work” they did in the past was often done for other than purely altruistic reasons. For example: Most men can instantly understand what I mean when I say, “It’s not charity if you talk about it.” I’ll bet that a lot of them ladies clucked very often, trying to one up the other hens with tales of how perfect they were, while they cackled about the hens that weren’t doing enough to be as good as them. They are, after all, social creatures far more than men, and need the approval of the herd, er, flock, to decide what is right and wrong.

But, at least the way it was before, it took features of “woman-ness” and harnessed them for the betterment of society – including their own families. Much like how patriarchy put sex to work. I don’t think the women of old cared so much about “keeping the door stoop swept” because of respect for what their husbands would think, but more to make sure that the other women thought well of them, and had nothing bad to gossip about when they knocked on the door. Also, as an added bonus, it kept them out of our hair all day, until we came home and got what we men wanted out of them.

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Sunday, October 07, 2012

Truth, Truth, Truth... What is The Truth?

QUOTE: "Unfortunately, the Founding Fathers/John Locke got the order wrong. The way that it is actually practiced is the only way that it can be done (since we are on the inside looking out):

1 – Natural Law = Objective Truth

2 – God’s Law = Absolute Truth
3 – Civil Law = Relative/Subjective Truth

This is the correct order because religion also uses the Scientific Method (Objective Truth), just not very well.



Yes, you are right. I have struggled with this before too, and this is why I say the need for Absolute Truth to be placed highest, may actually be important to human nature beyond even the scope of whether that truth is “true.”

I have come into this from the scope of what Karl Marx is “trying to do.”

Well, one thing Marx says he wants to do is to “Dethrone God and Destroy Capitalism.”

In other words – he wants to destroy the Absolute Truth.

How come? Because it prevents him from manipulating the subjective truth into overcoming the objective truth. (The world of Orwell’s 1984).

Humans have “the ability” to be blind to the “objective truth” because of how they allow their brains to process “subjective truth.” In other words, humans often get so confused with the subjective/relative truth that they manage to convince themselves that the objective truth does not matter… that’s why there has to be an Absolute Truth above the objective truth.

Take the way constitutions of free countries peg themselves to an Absolute Truth, whereas countries without freedom have no Absolute Truth, but only subjective truth – with the subjective truth creating objective truth.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men…” — United States Declaration of Independence

versus the United Nations “constitution” (a knock off of all totalitarian governments):

“The States Parties to the present Covenant recognize that, in the enjoyment of those rights provided by the State… the State may subject such rights only to such limitations as are determined by law.” — Article Four of the UN Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.

The “reason” why the Founding Fathers place “rights” in the hands of the Creator is because what God gives only God can take away! In other words, the tendency of mankind to trick himself with the subjective truth into not believing in the objective truth is completely curtailed by placing “rights” out of reach of mankind.

If we ever end up re-writing our constitutions to remove "God" from them, please, oh please, let me get my rights from Santa or the Easter Bunny rather than the state and its subjective laws. I have much more faith that Santa won't come like a thief in the night to take back my rights than I do in the government refraining from curtailing my rights in the future - especially in a democracy.

Whether “God is real” matters not so much as that “God ‘pins’ down the Truth” so that we don’t convince ourselves that what is all about us is not true… the same way we have convinced ourselves of such nonsense as feminism has produced. As far as anyone “objectively” looking at the situation, they would declare we are nuts and should just open ours eyes… and yet, what is happening in society? We are choosing to place the subjective above the objective.

And that is very dangerous!

Now, think about how looooooooooong it takes to create “civilization.” It does not happen overnight. We have been “following the Bible” for approximately 3,300 years. (The Pentateuch was written by Moses, and Moses is thought to be contemporary of 1300BC or so).

During that time-frame, “the Truth” has more or less stayed the same. Humans are prevented, by the existence of an unchanging absolute that trumps all others, from convincing themselves that the subjective truth is higher than the objective truth.

Sooner or later, humans will convince themselves to overlook some sort of “objective truth” in favour of the “subjective truth” and then the “Absolute Truth” will wipe them from the face of the earth… just like Sodom & Gomorrah.

Perhaps it will be that we convince ourselves that refraining from sexual monogamy is silly - that this religion thingy telling us not to hump like monkeys is just that – religious trappings. (Using the subjective truth to convince ourselves of what we wish to be true, rather than what is actually true). And so, everyone throws away their sexual restraint because they believe they are seeing objective truth, and perhaps 40 years later, STD’s start becoming so rampant throughout the population that the fertility rates begin to decline… or perhaps, the “unordering” of the male –> female –> child hierarchy, while it looks to be “objectively smart” in our heads, turns out to be something which repels men and women from eachother, and our birthrates decline below replacement… until we are wiped from the face of the earth.

“SMACK!” says the Absolute Truth.

Start over and don’t make that same mistake again!

How would a civilization manage to “stay on the right path” for thousands of years while always having to battle this human tendency? I suspect that it could not, unless it somehow managed to contain this human tendency… and the best way to do that is to place an Absolute Truth above all others – for those things we know “we need to do” in order to sustain ourselves, but have a tendency to wish weren’t true.

Whether that truth is real or not, is less significant in this purpose, than the need for Truth to exist.

I think it was Voltaire who quipped “If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him.” (Although, I don’t know if he was referring to my argument… but you get the point).

What Karl Marx believes he can do is change the world into a Utopia by manipulating truth.

“The philosophers have only interpreted the world in different ways. The point, however, is to change it.” — Karl Marx

He means he is going to take philosophy, and use it to manipulate reality in order that he might change the world. And this is what he does, by using the Relative Truth uber-alles which his predecessor Hegel identified with the Hegelian Dialectic.

1 – Relative Truth
2 – Relative Truth
3 – Relative Truth

(And, as I have pointed out elsewhere, this is the Feminine Principle, and it is also the “animal principle.” Animals live completely from moment to moment – everything is subjective to them – their instincts lead, not their reason).

Karl Marx believes, through use of evolution, that he can “bend the truth” and by “bending reality” he can “evolve mankind into a new form of human” – one that has never existed before.

He believes if he can manipulate reality, he can remove man’s greed and desire to put self first etc. etc. and then a completely new form of mankind will emerge, unencumbered by mankind’s worst traits, and therefore, he will have defeated God because he will have created Heaven on Earth. (Marx wants to make the Lion lie down with the Lamb).

One of the reasons why the Bible is so damaging to Marx’s plans is because it places Truth out of his reach and therefore Marx is severely handicapped in manipulating the truth for his own designs.

And, like I pointed out before, it appears that Marxism and Animal-ness are very closely related in how they process “Truth,” and in fact, Marxism is as old as the Garden of Eden itself.

So, I guess what I mean is, there are two roads here:

One can look at Truth for the purpose of “seeking Truth.”

and

There is also a human need for A truth to exist, in order to “temper” man’s mind, so that he doesn’t behave like a lemming and kill himself with his brain – which sometimes can create realities inside of our heads that don’t really exist (or will unwittingly kill us).

QUOTE: "As long as those above are supporting a specific Absolute Truth, those below (who are willing to accept truth that is independent of evidence) will be prevented from mucking things up, in a specific way.

But when those in charge wish to move in a different direction, all that they have to do is make a few minor modifications, like a farmer changing the fence lines..."

Yes, I know. This is why I quite often look at books like the Bible, and, realizing how incredibly wise it is in regard to understanding human nature, I have concluded that regardless of whether God exists or not, that book knows more about human nature than I, or anyone else around me does… so the Bible ought not to be dismissed lightly.

Also, keep in mind that this is how cultures “grow.”

They start off small, with perhaps a few hundred people hanging around on an internet forum, within a larger culture that perhaps might not even acknowledge they exist. But eventually, if their formula is correct, they will out-succeed the rest by following their form of “Truth” until they overtake the culture.

It appears that all cultures start out small, adhering to one form of truth (Cultural Hegemony), and because they have got “the right kind of formula in their truth” they grow and grow over time, until they overtake the culture.

That seems to be the way it works… rather than a small group of people convincing a large group of people of the error of their ways. Without “one truth,” no Cultural Hegemony can occur, and thus, neither will civilization appear.

QUOTE: "For something to be an actual Absolute Truth, it would need to be pinned to objective reality, in order to be truly “out of reach of mankind” while being directly accessible to all."

I think the exact same thing. Sometimes I say, when we identify a Truth, we have to “pin it to the wall.” (So that some asshole doesn’t come along and try to alter it with subjective truth). But how you can you pin an objective truth to anything unless there is an Absolute to pin it to?

By the way, I have sometimes philosophized if an Absolute Truth can be created outside of the religious realm – with mathematics, for instance. Could mathematics be used as a replacement “pin”?

For example:

If we know that divorce/feminism causes ever falling birth rates, and yet we also know we need X number of babies to move forward… then the maximum tolerance of divorce that society can handle without destructing is X% of marriages ending in divorce.

Can that create a “morality” which humans can follow?

But, then you also start getting into the law of unintended consequences – as in, is it also then “morally proper” to say “this is the maximum amount of old people we can tolerate in society, while still sustaining ourselves… therefore…”

Scary business, when we think we are God.

The Bible knows a lot more than people give it credit for. I suspect it might still surprise us and show us that it still knows more than we do… like how STD’s due to promiscuousness are causing our fertility rates to fall. (It is not just that we are choosing NOT to have children, but also, we are physically having more problems having them… in many cases due to STD’s).

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"People have always spoken of the absolutely necessary [absolutnotwendigen] being, and have taken pains, not so much to understand whether and how a thing of this kind can even be thought, but rather to prove its existence.... if by means of the word unconditioned I dismiss all the conditions that the understanding always requires in order to regard something as necessary, this does not come close to enabling me to understand whether I then still think something through a concept of an unconditionally necessary being, or perhaps think nothing at all through it." -- Immanuel Kant, Critic of Pure Reason
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Words are but symbols for the relations of things to one another and to us; nowhere do they touch upon absolute truth. ... Thus it is, today, after Kant, an audacious ignorance if here and there, especially among badly informed theologians who like to play philosopher, the task of philosophy is represented as being quite certainly "comprehending the Absolute with the consciousness," somewhat completely in the form "the Absolute is already present, how could it be sought somewhere else?" as Hegel has expressed it. -- Friedrich Nietzche, Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks


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